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	<title>Comments on: Come on a Safari, PC</title>
	<link>http://inspireaction.mindandmedia.com/2007/06/21/come-on-a-safari-pc/</link>
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		<title>By: Deborah Ackerman</title>
		<link>http://inspireaction.mindandmedia.com/2007/06/21/come-on-a-safari-pc/#comment-1660</link>
		<dc:creator>Deborah Ackerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 18:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh also, though I use Safari on my Mac, I haven't downloaded the beta yet for Windows. Given they've already had to release a second update to the beta, and I've been hearing lots of crash rumors, I figured I'd wait for the stable release. But once that's out, I'll download it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh also, though I use Safari on my Mac, I haven&#8217;t downloaded the beta yet for Windows. Given they&#8217;ve already had to release a second update to the beta, and I&#8217;ve been hearing lots of crash rumors, I figured I&#8217;d wait for the stable release. But once that&#8217;s out, I&#8217;ll download it.</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah Ackerman</title>
		<link>http://inspireaction.mindandmedia.com/2007/06/21/come-on-a-safari-pc/#comment-1659</link>
		<dc:creator>Deborah Ackerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 17:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Indeed, if you code your site using a font that is only available in Windows and not the Mac, the appearance of your site will definitely differ on the Mac since Safari for Mac would have to use a substitute font.â€&lt;/em&gt;

Definitely true--but that statement's true for Windows-to-Windows designing, as well, if the designer doesn't chose a standard default font. 

So while the point is valid, I don't see this as a major issue because there are known "safe fonts" that work across all browsers. So long as those are used, testing should still be fairly reliable. 

And yeah, while it's not a perfect guarantee, you've at least got a much higher chance of cross-platform design success than not testing for Safari at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Indeed, if you code your site using a font that is only available in Windows and not the Mac, the appearance of your site will definitely differ on the Mac since Safari for Mac would have to use a substitute font.â€</em></p>
<p>Definitely true&#8211;but that statement&#8217;s true for Windows-to-Windows designing, as well, if the designer doesn&#8217;t chose a standard default font. </p>
<p>So while the point is valid, I don&#8217;t see this as a major issue because there are known &#8220;safe fonts&#8221; that work across all browsers. So long as those are used, testing should still be fairly reliable. </p>
<p>And yeah, while it&#8217;s not a perfect guarantee, you&#8217;ve at least got a much higher chance of cross-platform design success than not testing for Safari at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Wes Alwan</title>
		<link>http://inspireaction.mindandmedia.com/2007/06/21/come-on-a-safari-pc/#comment-1655</link>
		<dc:creator>Wes Alwan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 14:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Windows Safari is much faster but I'm finding it crashes pretty frequently.

Heng's article is interesting -- I didn't realize the rendering engine would be basically the same between Windows and Mac Safari (including the fact that Windows Safari does not use Windows' built in font-rendering, but ports it's own Mac renderer). 

Heng does provide this caveat: "Of course, if your site looks fine in Safari for Windows, there is no guarantee that it will look fine in the Mac since the implementation of the browsers may differ in some small but crucial details. Indeed, if you code your site using a font that is only available in Windows and not the Mac, the appearance of your site will definitely differ on the Mac since Safari for Mac would have to use a substitute font."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Windows Safari is much faster but I&#8217;m finding it crashes pretty frequently.</p>
<p>Heng&#8217;s article is interesting &#8212; I didn&#8217;t realize the rendering engine would be basically the same between Windows and Mac Safari (including the fact that Windows Safari does not use Windows&#8217; built in font-rendering, but ports it&#8217;s own Mac renderer). </p>
<p>Heng does provide this caveat: &#8220;Of course, if your site looks fine in Safari for Windows, there is no guarantee that it will look fine in the Mac since the implementation of the browsers may differ in some small but crucial details. Indeed, if you code your site using a font that is only available in Windows and not the Mac, the appearance of your site will definitely differ on the Mac since Safari for Mac would have to use a substitute font.&#8221;</p>
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